Re: Terrorist attack in Woolwich SE London

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 9:33 am

vills wrote:In times of trial and economic woe
if it weren't the Muslims it's be some other group.
The Jews or the Romanians,
Or some such.

And of course it suits the rulers for the people to have a scapegoat.

As far as I'm concerned we created our enemy but enemy they now are.
I'm not talking your average Muslim I'm talking of those who hate you Vils.
Yes hate you!
I'm begining to think your a mixture of a right smug bastard and a naive fool when you say they aren't your enemy.
You special or something?
Or do you stone homo's to death and punish rape victims?
If you get blown up on a plane I'm betting there won't be an announcement on the news saying ... we're sorry Vils died in the act of terrorism cos he wasn't our enemy.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 9:35 am

jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:In times of trial and economic woe
if it weren't the Muslims it's be some other group.
The Jews or the Romanians,
Or some such.

And of course it suits the rulers for the people to have a scapegoat.

North korea is a fine example of that.

One can only hope the brainwashed will one day realise there really isn't a God and that they're fighting for fcuk all

The NK's don't worship any Gods they worship a man.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 9:41 am

In my minds eye I see a terrorist hostage situation in a theatre and the terrorists are shooting people one at a time on the hour and Vils puts his hand up and says ... excuse me but can I go now because your not my en emy ... in fact I often light a candle and stand silent regarding these matters.

But I do happen to think homosexuals should be able to marry and women should be cared for after being raped instead of stoned to death and those beards look fcuking stupid .... rattatatttaaattt bang bang bang ...

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 9:43 am

Vils I'm begining to think your a fine example of everything that's wrong with our education system.

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 9:50 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:In times of trial and economic woe
if it weren't the Muslims it's be some other group.
The Jews or the Romanians,
Or some such.

And of course it suits the rulers for the people to have a scapegoat.

North korea is a fine example of that.

One can only hope the brainwashed will one day realise there really isn't a God and that they're fighting for fcuk all
The NK's don't worship any Gods they worship a man.

That's why I am trying to explain the fact there really isn't a god.

It's the same George Orwell 1984 ideal. Christianity was clung onto by many but not now though,most people know better. Islamist are creating an enemy called the western world just like north korea has. One uses God the other uses man. Why? To hang on to power and to control it. There is nothing else left. Some countries don't know how to share and divide so they create a war so as to maintain their wealth

by **vills** Sat May 25, 2013 9:54 am

Jack wrote:Vils I'm begining to think your a fine example of everything that's wrong with our education system.

Our system still allows you your freedom of thought Jack;
cherish it! Smile

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 9:58 am

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:In times of trial and economic woe
if it weren't the Muslims it's be some other group.
The Jews or the Romanians,
Or some such.

And of course it suits the rulers for the people to have a scapegoat.

North korea is a fine example of that.

One can only hope the brainwashed will one day realise there really isn't a God and that they're fighting for fcuk all
The NK's don't worship any Gods they worship a man.

That's why I am trying to explain the fact there really isn't a god.

It's the same George Orwell 1984 ideal. Christianity was clung onto by many but not now though,most people know better. Islamist are creating an enemy called the western world just like north korea has. One uses God the other uses man. Why? To hang on to power and to control it. There is nothing else left. Some countries don't know how to share and divide so they create a war so as to maintain their wealth

I think you'll find it's the west that has been creating enemies and has nothing whatsoever to do with religion but everything to do with wealth.
I can't find the quote anymore but when Gorby signed a deal with Reagan to finally reduce the nuke missiles and stop the cold war Gorby turned to Reagan and said you'll have to find a new enemy now and Reagan said don't worry we've got that in hand.
When you understand the reality of what a military industrial complex is you'll truly begin to understand why enemies have to be manufactured.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 10:05 am

vills wrote:
Jack wrote:Vils I'm begining to think your a fine example of everything that's wrong with our education system.

Our system still allows you your freedom of thought Jack;
cherish it!

Sorry mate but I fail to understand in what context that reply stands but then I too am a prime example of a shit education system.

by **vills** Sat May 25, 2013 10:07 am

Just that we are still allowed freedom of thought Jack.

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 10:08 am

vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 10:16 am

jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?

Jezzi I don't understand why you keep going on about God.

by **vills** Sat May 25, 2013 10:16 am

jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?

No of course there won't jezzi.
A few thugs will strut around, and some mosques might be attacked.
Our liberties will continue to be curtailed,
people will be locked up, and so on as normal.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 10:17 am

vills wrote:Just that we are still allowed freedom of thought Jack.

I think most of us know that Villy errrrr .... you been hanging out with Micky to long?

by **vills** Sat May 25, 2013 10:20 am

Jack wrote:
vills wrote:Just that we are still allowed freedom of thought Jack.
I think most of us know that Villy errrrr .... you been hanging out with Micky to long?

Probably!

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 10:21 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
The NK's don't worship any Gods they worship a man.

That's why I am trying to explain the fact there really isn't a god.

It's the same George Orwell 1984 ideal. Christianity was clung onto by many but not now though,most people know better. Islamist are creating an enemy called the western world just like north korea has. One uses God the other uses man. Why? To hang on to power and to control it. There is nothing else left. Some countries don't know how to share and divide so they create a war so as to maintain their wealth
I think you'll find it's the west that has been creating enemies and has nothing whatsoever to do with religion but everything to do with wealth.
I can't find the quote anymore but when Gorby signed a deal with Reagan to finally reduce the nuke missiles and stop the cold war Gorby turned to Reagan and said you'll have to find a new enemy now and Reagan said don't worry we've got that in hand.
When you understand the reality of what a military industrial complex is you'll truly begin to understand why enemies have to be manufactured.

Yes we have all acted like silly-billies every one person and country/tribe. For sure. At first it was for survival. Now with knowledge in our pockets we will hopefully will use this knowledge to progress. Forget about there being a God and that it will all be alright no matter how much of a c unt you are. etc.

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 10:24 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?
Jezzi I don't understand why you keep going on about God.

Can you not see that god is being used as a way of controlling people?

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 10:33 am

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?
Jezzi I don't understand why you keep going on about God.

Can you not see that god is being used as a way of controlling people?

God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 10:40 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
Jezzi I don't understand why you keep going on about God.

Can you not see that god is being used as a way of controlling people?

God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

Not looking that way to the extreme islamist in the uk

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 10:42 am

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
Jezzi I don't understand why you keep going on about God.

Can you not see that god is being used as a way of controlling people?

God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

Not looking that way to the extreme islamist in the uk

To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 11:09 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

Not looking that way to the extreme islamist in the uk
To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

Hardly a tiny minority. You forget how much wealth the east has

I agree with your second sentence only to the extent that at first they needed to have religion to make the masses conform,first. First

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 11:14 am

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

Not looking that way to the extreme islamist in the uk
To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

Hardly a tiny minority. You forget how much wealth the east has

I agree with your second sentence only to the extent that at first they needed to have religion to make the masses conform,first. First

Stalin didn't and he killed millions under the banner of anti religion.

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 11:22 am

vills wrote:
jezzi wrote:
vills wrote:Maybe, just seems odd to me.
The instinct would be to run...

You are saying they are not scared

I am saying I wish everyone would get this god ideal out of their heads

I don't believe there will be a civil war

What do you say?

No of course there won't jezzi.
A few thugs will strut around, and some mosques might be attacked.
Our liberties will continue to be curtailed,
people will be locked up, and so on as normal.

Do they have liberties in the eastern world vils? Whose liberties here are you talking about?

by **jezzi** Sat May 25, 2013 11:26 am

Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

Hardly a tiny minority. You forget how much wealth the east has

I agree with your second sentence only to the extent that at first they needed to have religion to make the masses conform,first. First
Stalin didn't and he killed millions under the banner of anti religion.

It is still the same brainwashing and control.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 11:36 am

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

Hardly a tiny minority. You forget how much wealth the east has

I agree with your second sentence only to the extent that at first they needed to have religion to make the masses conform,first. First
Stalin didn't and he killed millions under the banner of anti religion.

It is still the same brainwashing and control.

But nothing whatsoever to do with religion or God.
Fashion is brain washing.
Look at the glasses everyones wearing with the thick arms on.
People wouldn't have been seen dead in them till they were told it was ok to do so ... in fact more than ok to do so ... almost essential.
So brainwashing is all around us.
I think you have an exagerated sense of this God thing being responsible for all evil.
I think you buy into the myth to easily that religion is the cause of all wars when in reality it's money power resources and greed that's to blame.
Man's inhumanity to man.
Why I asked before why you keep going on about God.
Hitler Pol Pot ... nothing to do with God or Gods.

by Jack Sat May 25, 2013 12:18 pm

jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
jezzi wrote:
Jack wrote:
God and gods have less influence now over people than any other time in history I'd have thought.

Not looking that way to the extreme islamist in the uk
To a tiny minority of the worlds people then like I said.
Money and men have caused far more death and hunger and other atrocities than religion can ever get near!

Hardly a tiny minority. You forget how much wealth the east has

As in China?
Not much religious power or influence there I wouldn't have thought with it being a communist country.

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