Terrorist attack in Woolwich SE London

Mama kaz wrote:I haven't seen the news, my mind was elsewhere. My Facebook is absolutely full of extreme views against Muslims now though.

To my mind it's the soap boxes of the world that incite this kind of rubbish, whether it be the Muslim extremists carrying out the atrocities after listening to the spiels from hate clerics, or the edl who encourage hate against all Muslims.

Phil I have to say I have actively walked away from here over the last fortnight as I have a Christian faith and I have REALLY needed that faith throughout a loved one's dreadful illness, I don't want to read your extremist views against that every time I log on here either.

Yes everyone is entitled to their own view point, for anything, religion, sexuality or culture...to constantly shove that view into everyone else's face as being the only right way to think is NOT ok, to shout louder so more people believe your hype is not ok. To encourage hate of anything different to that viewpoint is not ok.

We live in a free county, with the right to freedom of speech... That same right is what is allowing the extremist views to become dangerous. Time to draw that down a bit, so we can all learn to live and let live.

vills wrote:Oh I think it's nice that we can have a forum that isn't stuffed to the nuts with homophobes, racists, snobs and little-englanders Jack!
Phil's posts are refreshing!

Jack wrote:

Mama kaz wrote:I haven't seen the news, my mind was elsewhere. My Facebook is absolutely full of extreme views against Muslims now though.

To my mind it's the soap boxes of the world that incite this kind of rubbish, whether it be the Muslim extremists carrying out the atrocities after listening to the spiels from hate clerics, or the edl who encourage hate against all Muslims.

Phil I have to say I have actively walked away from here over the last fortnight as I have a Christian faith and I have REALLY needed that faith throughout a loved one's dreadful illness, I don't want to read your extremist views against that every time I log on here either.

Yes everyone is entitled to their own view point, for anything, religion, sexuality or culture...to constantly shove that view into everyone else's face as being the only right way to think is NOT ok, to shout louder so more people believe your hype is not ok. To encourage hate of anything different to that viewpoint is not ok.

We live in a free county, with the right to freedom of speech... That same right is what is allowing the extremist views to become dangerous. Time to draw that down a bit, so we can all learn to live and let live.

Yes I agree.
Phils extremism is putting people off and possibly causing other problems.
No more of it will be allowed Phil.
Everyone now has the picture.
This place isn't a platform for gay rights.
We got the message.
You might have noticed no one replies to your posts only me.
Sorry mate but this place is no longer a platform for your protests.

vills wrote:The reaction to what at the moment remains a tragic murder has been completely over the top, with Prime Minister David Cameron canceling a trip to France to fly back and attend a Cobra emergency response meeting, while even the Queen is being kept informed of developments.

The political statements made by the suspect before he was shot will provide the state and the media all the cannon fodder it needs to link anti-government rhetoric with violent terrorism.

It remains to be seen how this will be exploited by the state, but immediate thoughts will turn to a re-introduction of the defeated "stop and search" powers under the pretext of preventing terrorism, as well as further driving a wedge between Muslims and the rest of the British population, greasing the skids for future military intervention in the middle east.

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/may2013/220513_terror_attack.htm

NAA wrote:he has a 2yr old son..

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

philagain wrote:

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

The Root of All Evil?, later retitled The God Delusion, is a television documentary written and presented by Richard Dawkins in which he argues that humanity would be better off without religion or belief in God.

jezzi wrote:

philagain wrote:

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

The Root of All Evil?, later retitled The God Delusion, is a television documentary written and presented by Richard Dawkins in which he argues that humanity would be better off without religion or belief in God.

Knowing as I do now I will always make clear that there isn't a higher being. That we really are all there is.

We are the relics of ignorance ... Now we know more... Let's behave in accordance to that.. Which is basically to survive and progress.... why not!

jezzi wrote:

philagain wrote:

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

The Root of All Evil?, later retitled The God Delusion, is a television documentary written and presented by Richard Dawkins in which he argues that humanity would be better off without religion or belief in God.

Knowing as I do now I will always make clear that there isn't a higher being. That we really are all there is.

We are the relics of ignorance ... Now we know more... Let's behave in accordance to that.. Which is basically to survive and progress.... why not!

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

Jack wrote:

jezzi wrote:

philagain wrote:

The Root of All Evil?, later retitled The God Delusion, is a television documentary written and presented by Richard Dawkins in which he argues that humanity would be better off without religion or belief in God.

Knowing as I do now I will always make clear that there isn't a higher being. That we really are all there is.

We are the relics of ignorance ... Now we know more... Let's behave in accordance to that.. Which is basically to survive and progress.... why not!

Not all of us think we are progressing.
We are clever for sure but our science and technology is depleting our planet of everything we need and slowly killing us.
We are creating problems we have no idea how to solve.
If your new God is science then best of luck with your faith.

vills wrote:

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

And C of E.

jezzi wrote:

vills wrote:

jezzi wrote:I believe a lot of people will actually realise evolution is.... IT....some day soon.

I also believe that some people will use anything they have at hand to turn their personal bitterness into a war.

North Korea gives a good example of blatant brainwashing...

Catholics and Muslims are a great example too

And C of E.

you bored?