Re: Terrorist attack in Woolwich SE London

by **Ali** Thu May 23, 2013 6:40 am

xtras wrote:
Ali wrote:
xtras wrote:
vills wrote:

Happens every day in Afghanistan.
Never hear anyone giving out about it.

this isn't flipping afghanistan!!!!

what a strange scene, one of the murderers speaking to a witness while being filmed, with hands bloodied carrying kniives, saying i am sorry women had to witness this

They just sound like a couple of madmen to me.

four religious nutcases!!

Four? I thought it was just two of them.

by **vills** Thu May 23, 2013 6:41 am

philagain wrote:
vills wrote:
philagain wrote:

You want more attacks like this?

They're soldiers; they're at war Phil.

Can't agree there..That poor guy wasn't even armed so didn't stand a chance ...You do know that you seem to be condoning terror.

I suggest that what we've been doing every day in Afghanistan for the last ten years is terror.

Which I don't condone...

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 6:41 am

Ali wrote:
xtras wrote:
vills wrote:

Happens every day in Afghanistan.
Never hear anyone giving out about it.

this isn't flipping afghanistan!!!!

what a strange scene, one of the murderers speaking to a witness while being filmed, with hands bloodied carrying kniives, saying i am sorry women had to witness this

They just sound like a couple of madmen to me.

They used political and religious language.

by **xtras** Thu May 23, 2013 6:42 am

philagain wrote:
xtras wrote:
vills wrote:

Happens every day in Afghanistan.
Never hear anyone giving out about it.

this isn't flipping afghanistan!!!!

what a strange scene, one of the murderers speaking to a witness while being filmed, with hands bloodied carrying kniives, saying i am sorry women had to witness this

They wanted maximum publicity which is how terrorists normally work...Look at that far right Christian nutter Brievik in Norway.

yes it was obvious they wanted publicity.....

by **Ali** Thu May 23, 2013 6:43 am

philagain wrote:
Ali wrote:
xtras wrote:
vills wrote:

Happens every day in Afghanistan.
Never hear anyone giving out about it.

this isn't flipping afghanistan!!!!

what a strange scene, one of the murderers speaking to a witness while being filmed, with hands bloodied carrying kniives, saying i am sorry women had to witness this

They just sound like a couple of madmen to me.

They used political and religious language.

Like I said, madmen.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 6:44 am

Ali wrote:
philagain wrote:
Ali wrote:

They just sound like a couple of madmen to me.

They used political and religious language.

Like I said, madmen.

I agree!

by **Snookerballs** Thu May 23, 2013 6:46 am

philagain wrote:
Snookerballs wrote:How did these two know that there was a soldier crossing the road at that particular moment , and were able to run him over,

How did they know he was even a soldier, the only possible clue was his Tee shirt , "Help For Heroes" but many civvies wear them .

It was right by the barracks where he was attached to...They probably saw him leaving there.

So you think they were waiting for anyone to leave the Barracks to run over in their car.

The whole thing sounds totally weird, high on drugs I can believe, not a premeditated Terrorist attack

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 6:50 am

Snookerballs wrote:
philagain wrote:
Snookerballs wrote:How did these two know that there was a soldier crossing the road at that particular moment , and were able to run him over,

How did they know he was even a soldier, the only possible clue was his Tee shirt , "Help For Heroes" but many civvies wear them .

It was right by the barracks where he was attached to...They probably saw him leaving there.

So you think they were waiting for anyone to leave the Barracks to run over in their car.

The whole thing sounds totally weird, high on drugs I can believe, not a premeditated Terrorist attack

Yes i believe that. By the language that was used during and after the attack that it was all planned and they waited for the police to arrive and attacked them as well so wanted to be martyred.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 6:51 am

.....The next days will be very tense since we don't know if they acted alone or are part of a cell.

by **xtras** Thu May 23, 2013 6:55 am

Snookerballs wrote:
philagain wrote:
Snookerballs wrote:How did these two know that there was a soldier crossing the road at that particular moment , and were able to run him over,

How did they know he was even a soldier, the only possible clue was his Tee shirt , "Help For Heroes" but many civvies wear them .

It was right by the barracks where he was attached to...They probably saw him leaving there.

So you think they were waiting for anyone to leave the Barracks to run over in their car.

The whole thing sounds totally weird, high on drugs I can believe, not a premeditated Terrorist attack

they were high on there fanatica/radical beliefs.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Woolwich-attack-Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack.html

by Jack Thu May 23, 2013 8:10 am

I've taken all manner of drugs and the only drug I can think of that might get you in this kind of state would be PCP otherwise known as angel dust.
Not popular in this country and not easily available if available at all but it was all obviously premeditated to have the weapons to hand and to be talking the way they did.
Sorry Snooks but I think you can rule out drugs.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:15 am

Jack wrote:I've taken all manner of drugs and the only drug I can think of that might get you in this kind of state would be PCP otherwise known as angel dust.
Not popular in this country and not easily available if available at all but it was all obviously premeditated to have the weapons to hand and to be talking the way they did.
Sorry Snooks but I think you can rule out drugs.

It's home grown religious extremists just like Breivik in Norway...The government don't just call a Cobra meeting out of the blue either.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:20 am

This is just an opinion but i wonder if this might have something to do with the success of UKIP in this country at recent elections...As we have seen by some of the opinions expressed by some of their councilors in this country it's bound to have pissed of the extremists at the other end of the scale.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:27 am

.....Perhaps we should heard all of the extremists from the far right and Islam etc....into a field somewhere and then seal it off and let them sort it out amongst themselves.

Just a thought.

by **Dean** Thu May 23, 2013 8:30 am

It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

by Jack Thu May 23, 2013 8:31 am

My thought would be to do the same to the intelligence services of most countries.

by **xtras** Thu May 23, 2013 8:33 am

Dean wrote:It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

not heard anything, but my nephew has a friend who lives in essex, says there has been an incident at a mosque....

by **Dean** Thu May 23, 2013 8:36 am

xtras wrote:
Dean wrote:It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

not heard anything, but my nephew has a friend who lives in essex, says there has been an incident at a mosque....

Pictures all over Twitter, riot police and EDL had run-ins in Woolwich tonight.

by **xtras** Thu May 23, 2013 8:37 am

Dean wrote:
xtras wrote:
Dean wrote:It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

not heard anything, but my nephew has a friend who lives in essex, says there has been an incident at a mosque....

Pictures all over Twitter, riot police and EDL had run-ins in Woolwich tonight.

just seen it now..

and i am trying to post on the bathroom thread that i have two toilet.. but ppl keep posting roflmao

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:38 am

Dean wrote:It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

The police only just managed to hold off a clash between the EDL in Eltham....When they were trying to march on Lewisham during the riots....The police sealed off all the roads from Eltham to Lewisham and all the access roads to this area.

by **Dean** Thu May 23, 2013 8:40 am

philagain wrote:
Dean wrote:It's given UKIP a huge boost. EDL are there now, in huge numbers and stirring up a lot of resentment. I see riots in the near future...

The police only just managed to hold off a clash between the EDL in Eltham....When they were trying to march on Lewisham during the riots....The police sealed off all the roads from Eltham to Lewisham and all the access roads to this area.

If my Twitter and Facebook is anything to go by, EDL are going to have a LOT more people sympathetic to their cause because of this incident.

by Guest Thu May 23, 2013 8:40 am

by **Cheyanne** Thu May 23, 2013 8:41 am

xtras wrote:
Snookerballs wrote:
philagain wrote:

It was right by the barracks where he was attached to...They probably saw him leaving there.

So you think they were waiting for anyone to leave the Barracks to run over in their car.

The whole thing sounds totally weird, high on drugs I can believe, not a premeditated Terrorist attack

they were high on there fanatica/radical beliefs.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2329089/Woolwich-attack-Two-men-hack-soldier-wearing-Help-Heroes-T-shirt-death-machetes-suspected-terror-attack.html

It did seem like that from what I saw xtras..........scary though!

by Jack Thu May 23, 2013 8:45 am

Cameron will be relieved ... all the people fighting amongst themselves instead of watching the Tory party tear itself to pieces and the coalition government fragmenting.

by Jack Thu May 23, 2013 8:46 am

In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, you can bet it was planned that way.

Franklin D. Roosevelt

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