Re: Adults who bite.....

by **Dimples** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:25 am

Dean wrote:
Dimples wrote:
Dean wrote:

Thats a law issue, not a FA issue. No idea what happens regarding the police and on-field antics tbh...

I know but if the FA had any balls at all (no pun intended), they'd have the little scrote charged with assault.

That would give out a far better message than pointless bans and fines.

Nothing stopping Ivanovic pressing charges himself...

Oh I know... but I bet he wouldn't dare because it probably wouldn't be viewed as the done thing. whistle

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:25 am

Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:

Bankers are paid a fortune, so are IT experts, so are numerous other people.

Why aren't they held responsible or our kids too?

They are not role models.
The huge payouts they award themselves repulse most people anyway.

Compare like with like...footballers are entertainers, thats what they get paid for, they have a talent and they use it to entertain....if a "star" acts badly he gets dumped by the studio, so.....

But why are they not role models? you said with money comes responsibility, so why exclude those and not footballers?

They are not role models because no one wants to be a banker when they grow up do they?... roflmao

Its hardly a thing a working class kid aspires to be.
Get real Dean.

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:27 am

Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:

They are not role models.
The huge payouts they award themselves repulse most people anyway.

Compare like with like...footballers are entertainers, thats what they get paid for, they have a talent and they use it to entertain....if a "star" acts badly he gets dumped by the studio, so.....

But why are they not role models? you said with money comes responsibility, so why exclude those and not footballers?

They are not role models because no one wants to be a banker when they grow up do they?...
Its hardly a thing a working class kid aspires to be.
Get real Dean.

I was alluding to the point you made about money. you used their finances as a way of saying they should be role models, i just countered that.

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:36 am

I said with the huge sums they earn comes responsibilities.

Other people may earn vast sums but they have probably trained for years to be awarded their money.

You cant compare one with the other. Bankers and the like are not role models footballers are.
Thats a fact of life I'm afraid.

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:38 am

Syl wrote:I said with the huge sums they earn comes responsibilities.

Other people may earn vast sums but they have probably trained for years to be awarded their money.

You cant compare one with the other. Bankers and the like are not role models footballers are.
Thats a fact of life I'm afraid.

A footballer trains for years too, every single day since a boy. You used money as a way oif saying a footballer should be a role model. What they earn should have no effect on how they choose to live their life.

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:40 am

Of course it should. They are in a privileged position, they should act with resposibility..
A banker would lose his job if he bit a colleague...and with it he would lose his earnings.
So....

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:40 am

Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:I said with the huge sums they earn comes responsibilities.

Other people may earn vast sums but they have probably trained for years to be awarded their money.

You cant compare one with the other. Bankers and the like are not role models footballers are.
Thats a fact of life I'm afraid.

A footballer trains for years too, every single day since a boy. You used money as a way oif saying a footballer should be a role model. What they earn should have no effect on how they choose to live their life.

Is it not the knowledge they will be in the public eye, and represent their bosses that means there is an expectation on how they live their life... In public at least?

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:44 am

Syl wrote:Of course it should. They are in a privileged position, they should act with resposibility..
A banker would lose his job if he bit a colleague...and with it he would lose his earnings.
So....

Anybody that earns good money is in a priviliged position. You're singling out footballers saying they should act responsibly, but not any other trade. What someone earns has no bearing on how they should act in public...

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:46 am

Mama kaz wrote:
Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:I said with the huge sums they earn comes responsibilities.

Other people may earn vast sums but they have probably trained for years to be awarded their money.

You cant compare one with the other. Bankers and the like are not role models footballers are.
Thats a fact of life I'm afraid.

A footballer trains for years too, every single day since a boy. You used money as a way oif saying a footballer should be a role model. What they earn should have no effect on how they choose to live their life.
Is it not the knowledge they will be in the public eye, and represent their bosses that means there is an expectation on how they live their life... In public at least?

I'm saying they shouldn't be expected to behave a certain way. they should follow the rules their employer sets out, other than that, they are free to behave how they choose.

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:48 am

Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:Of course it should. They are in a privileged position, they should act with resposibility..
A banker would lose his job if he bit a colleague...and with it he would lose his earnings.
So....

Anybody that earns good money is in a priviliged position. You're singling out footballers saying they should act responsibly, but not any other trade. What someone earns has no bearing on how they should act in public...

I am singling out footballers because it just so happens one is in the public eye right no.
You tell me of anyone who bites a work colleague and holds onto his job Dean?

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:49 am

Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:Of course it should. They are in a privileged position, they should act with resposibility..
A banker would lose his job if he bit a colleague...and with it he would lose his earnings.
So....

Anybody that earns good money is in a priviliged position. You're singling out footballers saying they should act responsibly, but not any other trade. What someone earns has no bearing on how they should act in public...

I am singling out footballers because it just so happens one is in the public eye right no.
You tell me of anyone who bites a work colleague and holds onto his job Dean?

No idea Syl. I've only ever had the one job!

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:50 am

Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:
Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:I said with the huge sums they earn comes responsibilities.

Other people may earn vast sums but they have probably trained for years to be awarded their money.

You cant compare one with the other. Bankers and the like are not role models footballers are.
Thats a fact of life I'm afraid.

A footballer trains for years too, every single day since a boy. You used money as a way oif saying a footballer should be a role model. What they earn should have no effect on how they choose to live their life.
Is it not the knowledge they will be in the public eye, and represent their bosses that means there is an expectation on how they live their life... In public at least?

I'm saying they shouldn't be expected to behave a certain way. they should follow the rules their employer sets out, other than that, they are free to behave how they choose.

I am pretty certain refraining from violet behaviour such as biting might well count as in the rules set out by the boss though lol

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:51 am

Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:

Anybody that earns good money is in a priviliged position. You're singling out footballers saying they should act responsibly, but not any other trade. What someone earns has no bearing on how they should act in public...

I am singling out footballers because it just so happens one is in the public eye right no.
You tell me of anyone who bites a work colleague and holds onto his job Dean?

No idea Syl. I've only ever had the one job!

And I am betting you kept it because you dont bite. roflmao

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:52 am

Mama kaz wrote:
Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:
Is it not the knowledge they will be in the public eye, and represent their bosses that means there is an expectation on how they live their life... In public at least?

I'm saying they shouldn't be expected to behave a certain way. they should follow the rules their employer sets out, other than that, they are free to behave how they choose.

I am pretty certain refraining from violet behaviour such as biting might well count as in the rules set out by the boss though lol

Of course, and he has been punished for it...

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:52 am

Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:

I am singling out footballers because it just so happens one is in the public eye right no.
You tell me of anyone who bites a work colleague and holds onto his job Dean?

No idea Syl. I've only ever had the one job!

And I am betting you kept it because you dont bite.

My bting at work record is clean so far!

by **Syl** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:54 am

Well done. Never mind

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:58 am

Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:
Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:
Is it not the knowledge they will be in the public eye, and represent their bosses that means there is an expectation on how they live their life... In public at least?

I'm saying they shouldn't be expected to behave a certain way. they should follow the rules their employer sets out, other than that, they are free to behave how they choose.

I am pretty certain refraining from violet behaviour such as biting might well count as in the rules set out by the boss though lol

Of course, and he has been punished for it...

Not sacked though Shocked

Like I said my cousin in law bit a guy and went to jail, he's got off lightly lol

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 5:58 am

Mama kaz wrote:
Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:

I am pretty certain refraining from violet behaviour such as biting might well count as in the rules set out by the boss though lol

Of course, and he has been punished for it...

Not sacked though

Like I said my cousin in law bit a guy and went to jail, he's got off lightly lol

Did he nibble his arm for half a second, Kaz? Or was his bite more severe?

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:01 am

It took the tip of the guys nose off Rolling Eyes

I don't think it takes too severe a bit to do that there though... Different body areas different results.?

I have to fess I have bitten hubby's toes when he bugs me Embarassed

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:02 am

Mama kaz wrote:It took the tip of the guys nose off I don't think it takes too severe a bit to do that there though... Different body areas different results.?

I have to fess I have bitten hubby's toes when he bugs me

You cant compare biting someone's nose off to what Suarez done...

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:07 am

If his bite was on the nose... Might it have had a different end result? ... Probably, like Tyson and the ear, it's the depth of skin, and the arm is pretty fleshy, the nose or ears aren't.

by **Dean** Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:10 am

Mama kaz wrote:If his bite was on the nose... Might it have had a different end result? ... Probably, like Tyson and the ear, it's the depth of skin, and the arm is pretty fleshy, the nose or ears aren't.

If he had a knife and stabbed him, it would have been worse too!! Of course the end result would be different if he bit him somewhere else!

He didn't though...

by Mama kaz Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:14 am

Dean wrote:
Mama kaz wrote:If his bite was on the nose... Might it have had a different end result? ... Probably, like Tyson and the ear, it's the depth of skin, and the arm is pretty fleshy, the nose or ears aren't.

If he had a knife and stabbed him, it would have been worse too!! Of course the end result would be different if he bit him somewhere else!

He didn't though...

More by luck than good judgement though lol... I would have bitten him back! slap face

by **Melfi** Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:19 am

Dean wrote:
Melfi wrote:
Dean wrote:

No, i know he is a role model to some, I said he shouldn't be a role model.

I don't believe footballers should be put on a pedestal when they are nothing more than working class lads that can kick a ball around (generally speaking)

Thats exactly the reason they are role models, kids can relate to them... It's their responsibility to be GOOD role models though, it's part of the job, surely?

Why should it be part of the job? Why should a footballer have to change his lifestyle just because he happens to be good at it?

Why should a footballer be responsible for somebody elses kids??? some people are simply nasty bastards, footballers are too. Why should a nasty footballer be punished because he doesnt want to be a role model to your kids, or my kids?

They can't choose whether or not they are role model's, they just are. They get rewarded more than enough to alter any behaviour that may not be appropriate. It's no hardship!

by **Melfi** Thu Apr 25, 2013 6:22 am

Dean wrote:
Syl wrote:
Dean wrote:

No, i know he is a role model to some, I said he shouldn't be a role model.

I don't believe footballers should be put on a pedestal when they are nothing more than working class lads that can kick a ball around (generally speaking)

They are paid a fortune and with that comes responsibilities.

Yes mostly they are working class lads, they are pivoted into fame and fortune, some make mistakes and if they learn from them well and good....Suarez doesn't learn, he is an arrogant violent bully.
I think his career will soon be over, at least in this country.

Bankers are paid a fortune, so are IT experts, so are numerous other people.

Why aren't they held responsible or our kids too?

Bankers aren't role models to children, footballers are.

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